My reasoning behind this is that for VLTs, because they are basically pull tab prize banks in electronic form, without knowing what prizes have already been hit and removed from the prize pool, your EV may be much less than expected if several high end payoffs have already been hit and removed from the possible outcomes.Ī loose comparison would be playing a scratch off game knowing all of the jackpots have already been won. The racinos' minimum payback is 90% (highest in the nation, iirc) and is 5% higher than their NY State RNG-driven casino counterparts.ĭon't quote me in this, but from an AP's perspective, I would assume it is big difference. Heck in the NY racinos, I would suggest slot players to actually play there.

If both were set to 85%, you wouldn't really notice a difference. The few times I have played them I won.įor slots, the virtual pull tab system in WA state (or NY racinos) should be pretty similar to slot machines in states with individual RNGs. Not that I have populously avoided them, I just haven't been in too many situations where there was a good reason to play them. + good cash back / free play on VP on a VLT, would you guys refuse to play it? I would be very cautious when playing a promotion that paid a bonus on specific hands or a progressive, but I don't think I would just disregard a casino with a possible good situation because it used VLT's.Īm I wrong to think a VLT would be the same as an RNG in the long run(assuming the same payback percentage)?ĭo VLT's usually have significantly lower payback percentages on slots than slots using RNG's?

Let's say they guaranteed an overall 99.5% payback Does it really matter if you are playing an RNG or a VLT on SLOTS? The few times I have played them I won.Īssuming the overall payback is the same(I know it's not on VP). Over time I would expect Ilani's table biz to continue to increase and Spirit Mountain's table game action to decrease.slots biz may be OK, but it is still almost 75 miles to Spirit Mountain from Portland and only 25 miles to Ilani. The only advantage Spirit Mountain has is that I believe Oregon slots are true RNG machines whereas WA slots are VLT's. Ilani is pretty nice.visited for the first time in mid June.

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